Attraction 2012 Rumor and News Discussion

The Ride Institute Of Technologies website is updated, and new tabs have been added. Look for your self.

http://www.rideinstitute.com/

We already have a Ride Institute/ Attraction 2012 page:
https://keystonethrills.forumotion.com/t250p100-attraction-2012-rumor-and-news-discussion
Thanks though!

CoasterBGW wrote:Is it just me or does "Awesome Fun World" sound like something a kid would name their RCT park?

It sounds like something from a Cedar Fair advertisement, to me.

CoasterBGW wrote:Anyone else see the viral marketing taking a turn towards SKYRUSH being an appropriate name for the coaster?

I think the LaMarcus Bros concept is indicative of the name. They're all about "mid-air" and "air" excavations and Rocky LaMarcus even says the word skyrush. So I think the origin of the name is based within LaMarcus Bros, rather than RIT with all of its astronomical references.

Add in Coaster Test Pilots for a website, too- and YES, it's Google-verified...

http://www.ctpilots.com/

And the game gets busier...

To keep everyone in the loop, I've had the following email exchange with Donan on facebook.

My take aways:
1) The Porsche Cayman S is a mid-engine car
2) Both car and plane are 2 seaters
3) The car accelerates from zero to 60 MPH in 5.4 seconds


Hi Tom, it was only a phone interview but that could very well be them, they were based in CO. They seemed more interested in telling me how and what they flew and what they drove when they had to be on the ground (a Porsche Cayman S if that tells you anything about them)! How did you manage to find this video?

Hi Tom, I don't believe that they fly anymore as far as I understood it they were retired. They kept talking about an F/A 18 F for it's ability to climb and it's agility.

I'm still thinking wing-rider, but we'll all find out in less than 2 weeks.

Hey, I just uploaded a few pictures. You can see them in the blog I just posted here:
https://keystonethrills.forumotion.com/t307-skyrush-formerly-known-as-attraction-2012#5190

And the layout referenced image

Greetings all, a few of us thought it would be fun to run a contest to guess what Hersheypark's attraction 2012 will be. You can now enter your guess at http://attraction2012.info/ . This website is meant to be a fun game in anticipation of Hersheypark’s announcement of their new attraction for 2012. This is your chance to test your skills at deciphering their campaign. After the official announcement the submissions will be scored and a winner announced. The contest will close July 29th at 11:59PM eastern

I never remember any 200 footer having that many support footers. There all over the place. Why is that??

coasteral wrote:I never remember any 200 footer having that many support footers. There all over the place. Why is that??

Intamin coasters always have a lot of supports, just look at any helix they build on their megacoasters. I don't really think it's out of the ordinary.

why are all these footers so tall, even the ones out of the creek are tall.

They need to be above the "100 year flood" water level.

They don't have to be above that level. The 2004 flood was above the footers for Storm Runner and Trailblazer, and part of Trailblazer's track was completely under water in the helix. However, both reopened the next day without damage.

Jeter1186 wrote:why are all these footers so tall, even the ones out of the creek are tall.

Due to the flood risk, no doubt. I don't know if it has to be over the "100 year flood level," as Trailblazer certainly isn't. With that said, Great Bear footers weren't allowed in the creek in 1997. This coaster obviously does, so just because one ride doesn't have one thing means another won't. Especially given that this ride is being built now, while Trailblazer was built in the early 70s and Great Bear in the late 90s. In that manner, things change.

But, it also could be due to the design of the footers themselves. The minipiles may require taller footers to better distribute the forces into the ground. It also could be a terrain issue.

ahecht wrote:They don't have to be above that level. The 2004 flood was above the footers for Storm Runner and Trailblazer, and part of Trailblazer's track was completely under water in the helix. However, both reopened the next day without damage.

That event was greater than a 100-year flood. According to Derry Township code, structures need to be 1 foot above "base flood elevation". "Base flood elevation" is defined as "The 100 year flood elevation".

Older rides were likely grandfathered into new building codes.

http://www.ecode360.com/?custId=DE2152

CoasterBGW wrote:

ahecht wrote:They don't have to be above that level. The 2004 flood was above the footers for Storm Runner and Trailblazer, and part of Trailblazer's track was completely under water in the helix. However, both reopened the next day without damage.

That event was greater than a 100-year flood. According to Derry Township code, structures need to be 1 foot above "base flood elevation". "Base flood elevation" is defined as "The 100 year flood elevation".

Older rides were likely grandfathered into new building codes.

http://www.ecode360.com/?custId=DE2152

Interesting. I never realized the Ivan flood was greater than a 100-year flood. I say that because I don't believe the waters were nearly as high as the Agnes flood in 72, so I never thought of it as a 100-year or greater flood.

EDIT: I would think the older rides were grandfathered into the newer codes, also.

You are correct, Agnes was much higher than the 2004 flood. It is a common issue in my field describing these "100-year events". It is just a statistical probability saying that in a given year there is a 1% chance of a flood exceeding that level. You can have multiple "100-year events" in a single year just like you can go 200 years without receiving one.

I wonder how high that creek could get? The comets lower half would not fair that well if water is very high.

Jeter1186 wrote:I wonder how high that creek could get? The comets lower half would not fair that well if water is very high.

The Comet survived the floods of 72 and 04, so I'm fairly confident that short of a hurricane planting itself over top Hershey for a week, Comet would survive another similar flood.

With all the talk of this being a Mega Lite the initamin website says they are 31 meters which equals around 101 feet. This will be 212 feet, I still think it will be something different.
http://www.intaminworldwide.com/amusement/RollerCoasters/Mega-Lite+Coaster/tabid/138/ProductNumber/Mega-Lite+Coaster/language/de-DE/Default.aspx

I personally think that it's going to be a wingrider. Hershey kept saying that we will not have ever seen anything like it before. Have we ever seen a 212.2ft tall wingrider before?

I think the coaster is going to be something like I-305, basically an I-212.

i'm hoping for a wing rider, too. a wing rider may explain why the supports are so high, especially if it's an area where the the track banks...

gb980109 wrote:I think the coaster is going to be something like I-305, basically an I-212.

I pretty much think that you're correct. I don't know about a majority of you, but this Wingrider concept is starting to drive me insane. What would most of you do if this turns out not to be a Wingrider?

CoasterBGW wrote:Greetings all, a few of us thought it would be fun to run a contest to guess what Hersheypark's attraction 2012 will be. You can now enter your guess at http://attraction2012.info/ . This website is meant to be a fun game in anticipation of Hersheypark’s announcement of their new attraction for 2012. This is your chance to test your skills at deciphering their campaign. After the official announcement the submissions will be scored and a winner announced. The contest will close July 29th at 11:59PM eastern

I don't know what it will be, but it won't be a wing-rider and it won't be themed to Orion.

Me personally would like to have a wingrider, but I would just be as happy with a mega coaster. All clues point to this be launched, but the leaked layout does not support it, with all of the talk of water i dont actually think there would be a splashdown, but just riding over the water in it, they would never allow the dirty creek water to splash on people. One thing I would like to see hershey do is with their sounds for the rides, they are all so generic, i hope they step up the game for project 2012.

freakylick wrote:

CoasterBGW wrote:Greetings all, a few of us thought it would be fun to run a contest to guess what Hersheypark's attraction 2012 will be. You can now enter your guess at http://attraction2012.info/ . This website is meant to be a fun game in anticipation of Hersheypark’s announcement of their new attraction for 2012. This is your chance to test your skills at deciphering their campaign. After the official announcement the submissions will be scored and a winner announced. The contest will close July 29th at 11:59PM eastern

I don't know what it will be, but it won't be a wing-rider and it won't be themed to Orion.

HEY! Orion was my idea!

Jeter1186 wrote:One thing I would like to see hershey do is with their sounds for the rides, they are all so generic, i hope they step up the game for project 2012.

What exactly do you mean by "generic?"

gb980109 wrote:

Jeter1186 wrote:One thing I would like to see hershey do is with their sounds for the rides, they are all so generic, i hope they step up the game for project 2012.

What exactly do you mean by "generic?"

Like they need to have something like this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WpNSImh6Z8
They need something to gear up the riders of the rides, instead of saying, "welcome to wildcat" etc, Storm Runner is good though!

HPCrazy wrote:What would most of you do if this turns out not to be a Wingrider?

Go to Hershey Park next year anyways.

PiperArcher wrote:Go to Hershey Park next year anyways.

I didn't mean it that way, I should've said how will all the people who want this to be a Wingrider re-act when they find out that it will most likely not be one. Of course, they'll still go and patronize HP and the new ride.

PiperArcher wrote:

HPCrazy wrote:What would most of you do if this turns out not to be a Wingrider?

Go to Hershey Park next year anyways.

haha exactly! the "ridetheedge" clue is what really has me now believing it may be a wing rider. i don't see how that clue applies to a coaster along the lines of i-305.

part of it is wishful thinking on my part though. i want them to add something that is thrilling and new (to me). i have never rode i-305, but i have rode intamin's formula rossa, and based on watching videos of i-305 i believe they provide a similar experience. i didn't find formula rossa all that exciting. if the project does turn out to be a wing rider i will be very, very excited.

whatever they build, i just hope it is top-notch. i have been disappointed with the previous two intamin coasters in the park. the storm runner is not long enough and does not feature enough "events" throughout the coarse of the ride (as a side note, a friend of my brother's used to be an engineer at the park and he told me the orginal plan for the storm runner was for it to continue going straight after the first hill and have the track intertwine with the great bear's before making it's way back to the station--that would have been awesome!) and the fahrenheit is just too slow. you feel like you are barely going to make it through some of the inversions. both are good coasters, but the great bear is still the best coaster in the park as far as i'm concerned. i was very excited by the early clues that could be interpreted to suggest b&m was doing this project.

I don't see how Rossa and I-305 have similar experiences? Rossa is all about speed and max height is 170'. Storm Runner is taller. I-305 is element driven. You do this, you do that, all while going 75-90.

As for "Ride the edge," I don't see how that means wing rider. It could mean a floorless or an inverted coaster as much as a wing rider. I don't even see what's special about a wing rider. Feels duplicative, in a way, of an inverted coaster.

gb980109 wrote:I don't see how Rossa and I-305 have similar experiences? Rossa is all about speed and max height is 170'. Storm Runner is taller. I-305 is element driven. You do this, you do that, all while going 75-90.

As for "Ride the edge," I don't see how that means wing rider. It could mean a floorless or an inverted coaster as much as a wing rider. I don't even see what's special about a wing rider. Feels duplicative, in a way, of an inverted coaster.

Storm Runner is 150 in height. 180ft drop.

gb980109 wrote:I don't see how Rossa and I-305 have similar experiences? Rossa is all about speed and max height is 170'. Storm Runner is taller. I-305 is element driven. You do this, you do that, all while going 75-90.

As for "Ride the edge," I don't see how that means wing rider. It could mean a floorless or an inverted coaster as much as a wing rider. I don't even see what's special about a wing rider. Feels duplicative, in a way, of an inverted coaster.

rossa and i-305 are similar in the sense that they are both about taking low, banked turns at high speed with the ocassional air hill thrown in. the main difference is that rossa is a launch coaster without a large, steep initial hill. aside from that, the experience is very similar (obviously rossa is a lot faster). go watch pov videos of both.

you're right, "ridetheedge" could mean a floorless or inverted coaster, or it could mean a wing rider. i'll admit that i'll be (pleasantly) surprised if it is a wing rider, but i can hope, right?

Belo777 wrote:

gb980109 wrote:I don't see how Rossa and I-305 have similar experiences? Rossa is all about speed and max height is 170'. Storm Runner is taller. I-305 is element driven. You do this, you do that, all while going 75-90.

As for "Ride the edge," I don't see how that means wing rider. It could mean a floorless or an inverted coaster as much as a wing rider. I don't even see what's special about a wing rider. Feels duplicative, in a way, of an inverted coaster.

Storm Runner is 150 in height. 180ft drop.

That's still a max height of 180. The tallest coaster in PA is Phantom's Revenge which is due to it's 240' second drop.

gb980109 wrote:

Belo777 wrote:

gb980109 wrote:I don't see how Rossa and I-305 have similar experiences? Rossa is all about speed and max height is 170'. Storm Runner is taller. I-305 is element driven. You do this, you do that, all while going 75-90.

As for "Ride the edge," I don't see how that means wing rider. It could mean a floorless or an inverted coaster as much as a wing rider. I don't even see what's special about a wing rider. Feels duplicative, in a way, of an inverted coaster.

Storm Runner is 150 in height. 180ft drop.

That's still a max height of 180. The tallest coaster in PA is Phantom's Revenge which is due to it's 240' second drop.

It's still 150ft high. The drop is 180. Storm Runner is 150ft tall.

OK - Brandon and myself have been playing with both PDFs all afternoon - I got two friends (graphic design and computers) involved who scrubbed the PDFS and found nothing. When you highlight - http://www.rideinstitute.com/pdf/jvdv_com_ch02.pdf - the following letters don't highlight be do copy:

- an an t voerend e ers ark aals tee nclusie.

I am being told this is highly unusual because there is a code buried within the PDF, which can not be unlocked.

So, I have a friend who lives in Amsterdam and sent him the PDF along with the letters that do not highlight - after over an hour of playing with it - and knowing NOTHING about the Ride, PA, Hershey, or past clues - he came up with:

- steer from the comet -

Not sure what it means or even how it could possibly relate but certainly an interesting find.

Wanted to share - thanks for all the time ideas Brandon - and look forward to everyone thoughts.

Tom

Furious Baco has some rigidity issues with the footers that were near water, causing undesirable rumbling as the train went over. It was corrected though. I highly doubt intamin would try a 212 ft tall wing rider. It just doesn't make alot of sense

Since a 212 foot wing-rider would go slower than the 84 MPH Furius Baco, why doesn't it make sense? From the rider's perspective it makes a ton of sense if they can solve the vibration issues.

thom25 wrote:Since a 212 foot wing-rider would go slower than the 84 MPH Furius Baco, why doesn't it make sense? From the rider's perspective it makes a ton of sense if they can solve the vibration issues.

What makes you think it would go slower?

thom25 wrote:OK - Brandon and myself have been playing with both PDFs all afternoon - I got two friends (graphic design and computers) involved who scrubbed the PDFS and found nothing. When you highlight - http://www.rideinstitute.com/pdf/jvdv_com_ch02.pdf - the following letters don't highlight be do copy:

- an an t voerend e ers ark aals tee nclusie.

I am being told this is highly unusual because there is a code buried within the PDF, which can not be unlocked.

So, I have a friend who lives in Amsterdam and sent him the PDF along with the letters that do not highlight - after over an hour of playing with it - and knowing NOTHING about the Ride, PA, Hershey, or past clues - he came up with:

- steer from the comet -

Not sure what it means or even how it could possibly relate but certainly an interesting find.

Wanted to share - thanks for all the time ideas Brandon - and look forward to everyone thoughts.

Tom

I already found those letters acouple of pages ago but didnt make anything out from it

That's why I made my post - when you subtract those letters from the original you get steer from the comet

thom25...How do you get steer from the comet from the letters?

The letters were translated from Dutch.

thom25 wrote:The letters were translated from Dutch.

Let's try this again...

Did you rescramble the letters...take out any letters...embellish the letters? If so, what did you do exactly. The letters in their current order don't translate from Dutch.

Sorry, for the confusion - here's what we have so far - this is still a work in progress as I'm working very closely with Michelle and Herman - this has been a total team effort. Anyway:

If you take away the letters - you get "Steer away from the comet"

If you scramble the letters you get:

1) The key to one hell of a ride is to take charge

or

2) A key change to one hell of a ride.

Please note: we are still working on the two sentences above since we still have one extra "a". (ARG).

But that's where we are with the clues.

Donan replied to Brandon's post on Facebook:

Hey Brandon, I haven't headed to the Hersheypark yet....I have no idea when I'll be there, I've just got to get there before Monday.

Anyone planning on attending the meet-up on Sunday, or will just be at the park this weekend ought to encourage him to come out. I'm working on him to try to be there on Sunday.

Greetings everyone; actually making my first post here, but I am a regular over at Coasterbuzz and Pointbuzz as Cedar Point is my "home" park. We are planning our first trip to Hershey next year, and I stumbled upon this site and have been following along as you have cleverly solved puzzles and found new clues. I have to say, it would be fun if more parks did these puzzles; Hershey definitely has the market cornered. It looks like a beautiful park that has found a way to maintain its charm, and I can't wait to see it in person. But enough about that...

If I am correct, I believe that at some point it was thrown out there that this ride will be unique; something never seen (I am obviously paraphrasing); but did that mean never seen at Hershey or in the world?

If I got my wish, I would love to see a Wingrider come to the park. It would certainly be a huge draw for the park being a one-of-kind in the United States (well, some have rumored that Dollywood is building the B & M version, but at least it would be the only Intamin).

Ride the Edge? That certainly fits.

All the clues about the sky/wind/air..."excavation"? That could certainly fit as well.

And as for it being unique, the world has certainly never seen a 200-foot wingrider, but an I-305 type coaster is something that can be found at many parks, so while that would certainly add something new for Hershey, I would find it far less exciting. Yes, it would be a wonderful addition; I am just feeling that, relatively speaking, unless there is some unique element or feature to a ride like that, it would pale in comparison to the impact that a wingrider would have.

Regardless, it is getting exciting.

thom25 wrote:When you highlight - http://www.rideinstitute.com/pdf/jvdv_com_ch02.pdf - the following letters don't highlight be do copy:

- an an t voerend e ers ark aals tee nclusie.

I am being told this is highly unusual because there is a code buried within the PDF, which can not be unlocked.

I have not had this issue. Each time I've highlighted the document, all of the letters have been highlighted.

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